Bueno, en uno de los foros USA que visito con frecuencia, me he encontrado esta entrada, con exactamente el mismo título del hilo, por lo que es fácil encontrarlo (no pongo el vínculo por si no se puede, no conozco todas las normas del foro)
Me parece interesante por lo que dice, por como lo dice, y por ser otro punto de vista diferente sobre dos de los SUV que mas comentarios están despertando en la actualidad. Ya hay un hilo en el foro que trata el asunto, pero creo que es mejor hacer uno para este. Espero que al usuario americano no le importe.
Es evidente que se trata de una visión muy particular y como tal debe tratarse, pero no obviemos tampoco que las reviews que por ahí leemos en web/revistas especializadas son realizadas por individuos que también tienen sus filias y fobias, en fin, no son dogmas de fe, solo opiniones, como las nuestras, en líneas generales.
Mi opinión me la reservo, aunque ya hay gente del foro que ya la conoce por otras historias.
Mi conclusión: la de siempre, nobody is perfect!!!
Datos.
BMW X4 3D - pvp 2014 60.400,00 € precio base configurador, en el que te incluyen el Driving Experience Control, Performance Control, dirección deportiva variable, además de los sensores de parking
MACAN SD - pvp 2014 65.664,00 € precio base configurador - que se van a los 70.626,00 € si queremos un equipamiento similar al del X4 (Sistema de ayuda aparcamiento delantero y trasero, Paquete Sport Chrono Plus, Sistema de suspensión activa Porsche (PASM), Servodirección Plus, Control de velocidad, Preparación para teléfono móvil).
Come & enjoy
"
Guys
I am a car nut and I buy way to many SUV's but I cant get enough.. Just so you know where I am coming from lets just talk about the Last few which are most relevant.
2013 Q5 3.0
2014 Q5 3.0 Sport Package
2014 SQ5 Estoril Blue 21s loaded.
I had my Audi run and finally got bored and decided to buy a 2015 Macan S which I will attach some pics as well. My Dealer had a white launch car that was pretty darn loaded and I couldn't wait to get back into Porsche. I have owned over 140 cars and I have owned Porsches but never kept them long and was thinking this could be the one. Well I was so wrong. Coming from the Sq5 which by the way is 100X more fun than the Macan in almost every way. The Sq5 was Nimble and sounded like a race car and the seats were awesome and comfy and all the controls were nice and solid and radio was awesome. The Porsche did nothing right as far as I was concerned. It felt 1000 pounds over weight. It steered not even close to an SQ5 and how about the steering wheel ? The Porsche Steering wheel is 2-3" larger than any sports car/Suv I have ever owned. I felt like I was commanding a ship. The seat bottom were Rock hard and caused your butt to hurt after 15 mins. The radio and yes mine had the bose system was horrid. The Buttons looked good but plasticky.. Things like the turn signal stalk was horrid. When you pushed it down or up the click to turn it on felt my my dads 75 ford. Long stroke and a big click. BMW is solid and quiet in this regard. The end all for me on the Porsche is they are having a complete failure of the Alarm in the car. All hours of the night the Factory alarm would go off by itself. They couldnt fix it and had me go through a series of things to finally after weeks of disgust they were able to disable the alarm which they say they will have a fix maybe by years end..Okay for 65K I am not waiting for fixes. The market for the Macan is huge so I put it on ebay and had dozens of takers in days and it was gone.
I almost went back to Audi and bought a 2015 SQ5 and stopped by the BMW dealer and they had just received the X4. Lets keep in mind I owned many BMW's in the past and loved loved loved my 2009 and 2010 X5 5.0.. I like different and the X6 was different which is probably why I like the X4 so much.
Okay so 2 weeks ago I go in to my local BMW dealer in NJ and I take out their Red X4 for a nice long ride. Right off the bat I realized how much I missed the creature comforts of their I Drive and Great Screen and adjustable seat control and many other features and things I didnt have on the past few cars. More important when I got on the highway and got on it , It felt like it has 400HP.. Serious acceleration and handling like what I remember on my old M3's and such. Complete fun and I drove back to the dealer knowing I wanted one. Then to find out thank god they had an allocation for one 3.5 whew but it would be a few weeks. I built a White one with 20's and pretty darn loaded and its hopefully going into production this week.
I spent a few days in and out of the dealer picking options and things and they had taken in a X3 3.5 2015 pretty loaded with 2900 miles on it, some guy bought it and wanted an X5 and he lost 16K in 4 weeks and I grabbed that X3 and replaced our little winter X1 2.8 with it.. I figured the X3 will hold me over till the X4 comes in and we need an all season SUV anyhow for my girlfriend to commute to work with. So for the last 2 weeks I have been driving this 2015 X3 3.5 and omg I am so in love with BMW again I cant believe it. This car has the LED lights which then made me go back to the dealer last week and add them to my X4 because after driving LED's its actually hard to go back to Xenons..
Ok so now I wait patiently for my X4 which should be soon and I am genuinely excited about this car. I was on the Audi Forums when I had Audi's and of course on the Macan forums when i had the Macan but I am very happy to be back on the BMW forum where i Feel at home.
The Macan although some think is beautiful is not really that nice looking. The back has the classic porsche dumpy butt and the front is okay but the worst thing for me is the overall fit and finish and functionality. Its all just okay but none of it is great. The radio was probably the biggest disappointment and for the money they charge for bose it was horrid. I am in the audio business so Sound for me is crucial. The Audi's B&O was awesome and so far I am enjoying the X3's sound system and cant wait to hear the Harmon system in the X4.
I will keep you guys posted and will have lots of photos when my X4 arrives soon I hope
Thanks
Craig"
Pdta: No matéis al mensajero!!!
Me parece interesante por lo que dice, por como lo dice, y por ser otro punto de vista diferente sobre dos de los SUV que mas comentarios están despertando en la actualidad. Ya hay un hilo en el foro que trata el asunto, pero creo que es mejor hacer uno para este. Espero que al usuario americano no le importe.
Es evidente que se trata de una visión muy particular y como tal debe tratarse, pero no obviemos tampoco que las reviews que por ahí leemos en web/revistas especializadas son realizadas por individuos que también tienen sus filias y fobias, en fin, no son dogmas de fe, solo opiniones, como las nuestras, en líneas generales.
Mi opinión me la reservo, aunque ya hay gente del foro que ya la conoce por otras historias.
Mi conclusión: la de siempre, nobody is perfect!!!
Datos.
BMW X4 3D - pvp 2014 60.400,00 € precio base configurador, en el que te incluyen el Driving Experience Control, Performance Control, dirección deportiva variable, además de los sensores de parking
MACAN SD - pvp 2014 65.664,00 € precio base configurador - que se van a los 70.626,00 € si queremos un equipamiento similar al del X4 (Sistema de ayuda aparcamiento delantero y trasero, Paquete Sport Chrono Plus, Sistema de suspensión activa Porsche (PASM), Servodirección Plus, Control de velocidad, Preparación para teléfono móvil).
Come & enjoy
"
Guys
I am a car nut and I buy way to many SUV's but I cant get enough.. Just so you know where I am coming from lets just talk about the Last few which are most relevant.
2013 Q5 3.0
2014 Q5 3.0 Sport Package
2014 SQ5 Estoril Blue 21s loaded.
I had my Audi run and finally got bored and decided to buy a 2015 Macan S which I will attach some pics as well. My Dealer had a white launch car that was pretty darn loaded and I couldn't wait to get back into Porsche. I have owned over 140 cars and I have owned Porsches but never kept them long and was thinking this could be the one. Well I was so wrong. Coming from the Sq5 which by the way is 100X more fun than the Macan in almost every way. The Sq5 was Nimble and sounded like a race car and the seats were awesome and comfy and all the controls were nice and solid and radio was awesome. The Porsche did nothing right as far as I was concerned. It felt 1000 pounds over weight. It steered not even close to an SQ5 and how about the steering wheel ? The Porsche Steering wheel is 2-3" larger than any sports car/Suv I have ever owned. I felt like I was commanding a ship. The seat bottom were Rock hard and caused your butt to hurt after 15 mins. The radio and yes mine had the bose system was horrid. The Buttons looked good but plasticky.. Things like the turn signal stalk was horrid. When you pushed it down or up the click to turn it on felt my my dads 75 ford. Long stroke and a big click. BMW is solid and quiet in this regard. The end all for me on the Porsche is they are having a complete failure of the Alarm in the car. All hours of the night the Factory alarm would go off by itself. They couldnt fix it and had me go through a series of things to finally after weeks of disgust they were able to disable the alarm which they say they will have a fix maybe by years end..Okay for 65K I am not waiting for fixes. The market for the Macan is huge so I put it on ebay and had dozens of takers in days and it was gone.
I almost went back to Audi and bought a 2015 SQ5 and stopped by the BMW dealer and they had just received the X4. Lets keep in mind I owned many BMW's in the past and loved loved loved my 2009 and 2010 X5 5.0.. I like different and the X6 was different which is probably why I like the X4 so much.
Okay so 2 weeks ago I go in to my local BMW dealer in NJ and I take out their Red X4 for a nice long ride. Right off the bat I realized how much I missed the creature comforts of their I Drive and Great Screen and adjustable seat control and many other features and things I didnt have on the past few cars. More important when I got on the highway and got on it , It felt like it has 400HP.. Serious acceleration and handling like what I remember on my old M3's and such. Complete fun and I drove back to the dealer knowing I wanted one. Then to find out thank god they had an allocation for one 3.5 whew but it would be a few weeks. I built a White one with 20's and pretty darn loaded and its hopefully going into production this week.
I spent a few days in and out of the dealer picking options and things and they had taken in a X3 3.5 2015 pretty loaded with 2900 miles on it, some guy bought it and wanted an X5 and he lost 16K in 4 weeks and I grabbed that X3 and replaced our little winter X1 2.8 with it.. I figured the X3 will hold me over till the X4 comes in and we need an all season SUV anyhow for my girlfriend to commute to work with. So for the last 2 weeks I have been driving this 2015 X3 3.5 and omg I am so in love with BMW again I cant believe it. This car has the LED lights which then made me go back to the dealer last week and add them to my X4 because after driving LED's its actually hard to go back to Xenons..
Ok so now I wait patiently for my X4 which should be soon and I am genuinely excited about this car. I was on the Audi Forums when I had Audi's and of course on the Macan forums when i had the Macan but I am very happy to be back on the BMW forum where i Feel at home.
The Macan although some think is beautiful is not really that nice looking. The back has the classic porsche dumpy butt and the front is okay but the worst thing for me is the overall fit and finish and functionality. Its all just okay but none of it is great. The radio was probably the biggest disappointment and for the money they charge for bose it was horrid. I am in the audio business so Sound for me is crucial. The Audi's B&O was awesome and so far I am enjoying the X3's sound system and cant wait to hear the Harmon system in the X4.
I will keep you guys posted and will have lots of photos when my X4 arrives soon I hope
Thanks
Craig"
Pdta: No matéis al mensajero!!!
, aunque parece que soy el único por estos lares!!! xD
