Duda Aceite motor

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    Buenos días foreros,

    Me dispongo en breves a cambiar el aceite de mi BMW 650i de 2012, motor n63, el famoso V8 4.4 TwinTurbo bebe-aceite.

    Tengo dudas entre estos dos aceites, ya que uno esta explícitamente diseñado para bmw que requiera homologación LL04 (el mío, aunque acepta desde LL01), pero la gama 8100 tiene muy buenas opiniones y aunque, en el bote no lo pone, en la página de motul dice “OEM PERFORMANCE” e incluye la BMW LL04.

    Os adjunto enlaces de los dos aceites, a ver si podéis arrojar algo de luz.


    MOTUL 8100 X-CLEAN 5W-40

    https://www.motul.com/es/es/products/8100-x-clean-5w40



    MOTUL SPECIFIC LL-04 5W-40

    https://www.motul.com/es/es/products/specific-ll-04-5w40
     
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    1) For petrol engines, only BMW Longlife-04 and BMW Longlife-12 FE oils are permitted in Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein). They must not be used outside this area.

    2) ”Others” includes all AG engines/models which are not listed in the above table, for example M10, M20, M30, M40, M42, M43, M44, M50, M52, M60, M62, M70, M73, etc.

    3) ”Others” includes all Motorsport engines/models which are not listed in the above table, for example S14, S38, S50, S50U, S52, S70, etc.

    4) Vehicles with a petrol engine and petrol particulate filter can be identified on the vacuum hose, which is installed on the petrol particulate filter, as well as on the optional equipment SA1DEA RDE exhaust emissions standard.

    5) BMW Longlife-14 FE+ oils are only approved for petrol engines in Europe (EU plus Switzerland, Norway and Liechtenstein), USA and Canada. They must not be used outside this area.


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    Named approved oils
    Trade name Viscosity Producer
    ADDINOL High Star C3 SAE 5W-30 ADDINOL Lube Oil GmbH
    ALPINE LONGLIFE III SAE 5W-30 Mitan Mineralöl GmbH
    AREOL ECO Protect SAE 5W-30 ATH&S GmbH
    AREOL ECO Protect SAE 5W-40 ATH&S GmbH
    ASTRIS ATLAS C3 SAE 5W-30 Astris SA
    ASV1 Longlife LS C3 5W-30 LL-III SAE 5W-30 ASV Germany GmbH
    AVENO FS Excellence LS-M SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
    AVENO WIV-Multi LL SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
    AVENO WIV-Multi Supreme SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Ölwerke Lubmin GmbH
    AVIA DYNETIC-LL SAE 5W-30 AVIA AG
    AVIA DYNETIC-LL PREMIUM SAE 5W-30 AVIA AG
    AVIA DYNETIC-XT PREMIUM SAE 5W-30 AVIA AG
    AVIASYNTH LSP PLUS SAE 5W-30 AVIA AG
    AVIATICON Unique BM SAE 5W-30 Finke Mineralölwerk GmbH
    AVIATICON Unique Longlife PRO SAE 5W-30 Finke Mineralölwerk GmbH
    AVISTA pace EVO C3 SAE 5W-30 AVISTA OIL Deutschland GmbH
    AVISTA pace EVO FE SAE 5W-30 AVISTA OIL Deutschland GmbH
    Aral HighTronic G SAE 5W-30 Aral AG
    Aral SuperTronic K SAE 5W-30 Aral AG
    BMW Genuine Flushing Oil SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    BP Visco 5000 M SAE 5W-30 BP Plc
    BP Visco 5000 M SAE 5W-30 BP
    BP Visco 7000 SAE 5W-30 BP PLC
    BP Visco 7000 C SAE 5W-40 BP
    CAR1 SAE 5W-30 Longlife III SAE 5W-30 Mitan Mineralöl GmbH
    CARTEC SAE 5W-30 Longlife III SAE 5W-30 MTS MarkenTechnikService GmbH & Co. KG
    CHAMP Titan PRO PLUS Fully Synthetic SAE 5W-30 Qingdao CHAMP Petrochemicals Co., Ltd.
    CHAMPION OEM SPECIFIC 5W30 C2/C3 SAE 5W-30 CHAMPION CHEMICALS N.V.
    CHAMPION OEM SPECIFIC 5W30 C3 LL III SAE 5W-30 CHAMPION CHEMICALS N.V.
    CHAMPION OEM SPECIFIC 5W30 LL III SAE 5W-30 CHAMPION CHEMICALS N.V.
    COFRAN SINTOLUX FORCE C2/C3 SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    Cartechnic 5W-30 MF SAE 5W-30 Auto-Teile-Ring GmbH
    Cartechnic 5W-30 MULTI PLUS SAE 5W-30 Auto-Teile-Ring GmbH
    Castrol Edge SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol Edge SAE 0W-40 Castrol Limited
    Castrol EDGE 5W-30 K SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol EDGE 5W-30 M SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol EDGE 5W-40 M SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
    Castrol Edge Professional C3 SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol Edge Professional LL04 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol EDGE Turbo Diesel SAE 0W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol GTX 5W-30 C3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol GTX 5W-30 M SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol MAGNATEC Stop-Start 5W-30 C3 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    Castrol Magnatec 5W-40 C3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
    Castrol Magnatec 5W-40 SN/C3 SAE 5W-40 Castrol Limited
    DS 5W-30 Performance Longlife III SAE 5W-30 Dr. Starke Chemische Industrie und Mineralöl GmbH
    Delkol MotorSynth 5W30 PLUS SAE 5W-30 Delek Industries
    EUROLUB CLEANTEC SAE 5W/30 SAE 5W-30 EUROLUB GmbH
    EUROLUB WIV ECO SAE 5W-30 EUROLUB GmbH
    Eersta Accel Everex C3 SAE 5W-30 Start First Pte Ltd
    Eersta Accel Everex C3 SAE 5W-40 Start First Pte Ltd
    Eni i-Sint SAE 5W-30 Eni SpA
    Eni i-Sint MS SAE 5W-30 Eni SpA
    Eni i-Sint MS SAE 5W-40 Eni SpA
    Eurol Fluence SAE 5W-40 Eurol
    Eurol Fluence DXS SAE 5W-30 Eurol
    Eurol Syntence SAE 5W-30 Eurol
    FUCHS TITAN GT1 FLEX 23 SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    Gulf Formula CX SAE 5W-30 Gulf Oil International
    Gulf Formula Elite SAE 5W-30 Gulf Oil International
    Gulf Formula Elite SAE 5W-40 Gulf Oil International
    Gulf Formula GVX SAE 5W-30 Gulf Oil International
    HEM Longlife III Spezialöl SAE 5W-30 Deutsche Tamoil GmbH
    Havoline ProDS Fully Synthetic LE SAE 5W-40 Chevron Products Company
    Havoline ProDS M SAE 5W-30 Chevron Products Company
    Havoline ProDS V SAE 5W-30 Chevron Products Company
    Helar SP LL-03 SAE 5W-30 Kroon-Oil B.V.
    I.G.A.T. PLATIN DLS SAE 5W-30 IGAT German Additive Technologies Aktiengesellschaft i. L.
    JET O SAE 5W-30 JET Tankstellen Deutschland GmbH
    JMC Extra OP SAE 5W-30 JM Products, Hamburg
    KLOBOlub Longlife III SAE 5W-30 KLOBOmotive GmbH
    Kendall GT-1® Euro+ SAE 5W-30 Kendall Motor Oil
    Krypton XT LA SAE 5W-30 Pakelo Motor Oil S.r.l.
    LIQUI MOLY Longlife III SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Longtime High Tech SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Topping up oil SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Pro-Engine M600 SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Profi Longlife III SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Top Tec 4200 SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Top Tec 4200 5W-30 New Generation SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LIQUI MOLY Top Tec 4600 SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    LUKOIL GENESIS ARMORTECH GC SAE 5W-30 OOO LLK-International
    LUKOIL GENESIS SPECIAL VN SAE 5W-30 OOO LLK-International
    Liqui Moly Top Tec 4110 SAE 5W-40 Liqui Moly GmbH
    Lopal SAE 5W-30 Jiangsu Lopal Tech. Co., Ltd
    Lopal SAE 5W-40 Jiangsu Lopal Tech. Co., Ltd
    MAG PRIMA ENVO PLUS SAE 5W-30 MAG LUBE L.L.C.
    MOTOREX SELECT LA-X SAE 5W/30 SAE 5W-30 BUCHER AG LANGENTHAL
    MOTUL 8100 X-CLEAN GEN2 SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
    MOTUL 8100 X-Clean+ SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    MOTUL EXPERT LL SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    Motul Specific LL-04 SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
    MOTUL SYNERGIE LL+ SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    MPM 05000DFI Motor Oil 5W-30 Premium Synthetic DFI SAE 5W-30 MPM International Oil Company B.V.
    MPM Motor Oil 5W-30 Premium Synthetic ESP-X SAE 5W-30 MPM INTERNATIONAL OIL COMPANY B.V.
    Mabanol Xenon Alpha LA SAE 5W-30 Mabanol GmbH & Co. KG
    Mabanol Xenon Suprema Longlife SAE 5W-30 Mabanol GmbH & Co. KG
    Midland crypto-3 SAE 5W-30 Oel-Brack AG
    Midland synova SAE 5W-30 Oel-Brack AG
    Mobil 1 ESP SAE 0W-40 ExxonMobil
    Mobil 1 ESP Formula SAE 5W-30 ExxonMobil
    Mobil Super 3000 XE SAE 5W-40 ExxonMobil
    Mobil Super 3000 XE1 SAE 5W-30 ExxonMobil
    Monza Super Combi 5W30 SAE 5W-30 Mitan Mineralöl GmbH
    Motul 8100 X-clean EFE SAE 5W-30 Motul SA
    Motul Expert EFE SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    My Project 5W-30 Longlife III SAE 5W-30 Kaufland Stiftung & Co. KG
    NAPA Premium LA SAE 5W-30 Alliance Automotive Service GmbH
    NAPA Premium Longlife III SAE 5W-30 Alliance Automotive Service GmbH
    Neste Pro C2/C3 SAE 5W-30 Neste
    Opet Fullmax LE 5W30 SAE 5W-30 Opet&Fuchs Madeni Yağ San ve Tic A.Ş.
    PANOLIN DAYTONA LA SAE 5W-40 PANOLIN AG
    PANOLIN DAYTONA LA-V SAE 5W-30 PANOLIN AG
    PENTO HP II+ SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    PETRONAS Syntium 5000 DM SAE 5W-30 PETRONAS LUBRICANTS INTERNATIONAL
    PLATINUM PRO V+ SAE 5W-30 ORLEN OIL Sp. z o.o.
    Pennzoil Euro L SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Pennzoil P9 Pro LS SAE 0W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Power Oil Syntec 5W-30 Longlife III SAE 5W-30 Mitan Mineralöl GmbH
    Presteza MSP SAE 5W-30 Kroon-Oil B.V.
    Pro-Engine M500 SAE 5W-30 LIQUI MOLY GmbH
    Professional Series Full Synthetic Turbo Diesel SAE 5W-30 Red Line Synthetic Oil
    QUARTZ INEO FGO SAE 5W-40 Total Lubrifiants
    Quaker State Euro L Full Synthetic SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    RAVENOL HLS SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    RAVENOL REP SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    RAVENOL RUP SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    RAVENOL SMP SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    RAVENOL VMO SAE 5W-40 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    RAVENOL VMP SAE 5W-30 Ravensberger Schmierstoffvertrieb GmbH
    ROWE HIGHTEC MULTI SYNT DPF SAE 5W-30 ROWE MINERALÖLWERK GMBH
    ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS DLS SAE 5W-30 ROWE MINERALÖLWERK GMBH
    ROWE HIGHTEC SYNT RS DLS SAE 5W-40 ROWE MINERALÖLWERK GMBH
    RZ600 5W30 SAE 5W-30 CP Power Solutions GmbH
    SRS ViVA 1 SLV top SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
    SRS ViVA 1 topsynth alpha LA SAE 5W-30 SRS Schmierstoff Vertrieb GmbH
    Shelix Helix Ultra Professional AM-L SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix HX8 ECT SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix HX8 ECT C3 SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix HX8 ECT C3 SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
    Shell Helix Ultra ECT SAE 0W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix Ultra ECT C3 SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix Ultra ECT Multi SAE 5W-40 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix Ultra ECT Multi SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
    Shell Helix Ultra Professional AB-L SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Co.Ltd.
    Shell Helix Ultra Professional AM-L SAE 5W-30 Shell International Petroleum Company
    Shield® Euro-Tech+ Motor Oil SAE 5W-30 Phillips 66 Company
    Specialsynth MSP SAE 5W-40 Kroon-Oil B.V.
    Swd Rheinol Primus LLX SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
    Swd Rheinol Primus Longlife Ultra SAE 5W-30 Swd Lubricants GmbH & Co.KG
    TBO&S Action Motor Oil SAE 5W30 SAE 5W-30 Trade Brand Oil & Service GmbH
    TECTROL SPEED 530 B SAE 5W-30 BayWa AG
    TITAN GT1 FLEX 3 SAE 5W-40 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    TITAN GT1 FLEX C23 SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    TITAN GT1 PRO C-3 SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    TITAN SUPERSYN B SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    TITAN Supersyn B SAE 5W-30 FUCHS PETROLUB SE
    TOTAL QUARTZ INEO MC3 SAE 5W-30 Total Lubrifiants
    TSV SAE 5W-30 MINERVA-OIL SAS
    Teboil Diamond Carat III SAE 5W-30 Oy Teboil Ab
    Teboil Diamond Diesel SAE 5W-40 Oy Teboil Ab
    TongYi SN PLUS SAE 5W-40 TongYi Petroleum Chemical Co., Ltd.
    Triathlon Endurance III SAE 5W-30 Adolf Würth GmbH & Co. KG
    Valvoline European Vehicle Full Synthetic XL-III SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
    Valvoline SynPower XL-III C3 SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
    Valvoline SynPower MST C3 SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
    Valvoline VPS C3 SAE 5W-30 Synthetic SAE 5W-30 Valvoline
    WOLF OFFICIALTECH 5W30 C2/C3 SAE 5W-30 WOLF OIL CORPORATION N.V.
    WOLF OFFICIALTECH 5W30 C3 LL III SAE 5W-30 WOLF OIL CORPORATION N.V.
    WOLF OFFICIALTECH 5W30 LL III SAE 5W-30 WOLF OIL CORPORATION N.V.
    WOLF OFFICIALTECH 5W30 LL III SAE 5W-30 Wolf Oil Corporation N.V.
    WOLF OFFICIALTECH 5W30 SP EXTRA SAE 5W-30 WOLF OIL CORPORATION N.V.
    XT OEM's FORMULA SAE 5W-30 MAROIL s.r.l.
    YACCO LUBE DE SAE 5W-30 YACCO SAS
    YACCO VX 1000 LE SAE 5W-30 YACCO SAS
    ad-High Tech 5W-30 d2 SAE 5W-30 CARAT Systementw.- und Marketing GmbH & Co. KG
    megol Motorenoel Compatible SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
    megol Compatible 5W-30 Plus engine oil SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
    megol Engine Oil Efficiency SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
    megol Engine Oil New Generation SAE 5W-30 Meguin GmbH & Co. KG
    multilub Leichtlauf Special SAE 5W-30 Globus Fachmärkte GmbH & Co. KG
    oilfino Performance Multi SAE 5W-30 oilfino Mineralöl GmbH
    real QUALITY GSO 5W30 SAE 5W-30 Real Handels GmbH
    ΒMW GROUP LL-04 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited
    ΒMW TwinPower Turbo LL-04 SAE 5W-30 Castrol Limited


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    MOTUL 8100 X-CLEAN GEN2 SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
    MOTUL 8100 X-Clean+ SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    MOTUL EXPERT LL SAE 5W-30 MOTUL
    Motul Specific LL-04 SAE 5W-40 MOTUL
    MOTUL SYNERGIE LL+ SAE 5W-30 MOTUL

    Yo me quedaria con uno delos madrcados en rojo, quizas el mas recomendable es el 5w40 por ver si mejora el consumo.
     

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    Muchísimas gracias @elrinconoriginal !! Vaya máquina :amo2:

    Entonces, si me tiro a por un Xclean debe ser el gen2, y por tema consumo 5w40 si o si. ¿Sería mejor que el Specific? ¿Que tiene este último que pueda ser mejor que otro, con, al menos, una denominación comercial que parece ser más completa o trabajada?

    Y por último y prometo que me callo mi coche recomienda ACEA A3/B4 aunque en muchos aceites veo ACEA C3. ¿Es esta una especificación igualmente válida que el A3, solo que más moderna y mejorada? ¿Por lo tanto incluiría todas las anteriores?

    Muchas gracias por las respuestas.
     
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    La C3 (respecto a la A3/B4): motores de gasolina y diésel de vehículos con sistemas de postratamiento (filtros de partículas, sistemas SCR con AdBlue, catalizadores…). Los lubricantes correspondientes se denominan Low SAPS por su bajo contenido en cenizas sulfatadas, fósforo y azufre. Los límites son distintos según el sistema de tratamiento y las necesidades de los motores de cada fabricante.


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    Muchísimas gracias compañero!
     

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