Fotos cosillas curiosas, mas cosillas

Tema en 'Clásicos BMW.' iniciado por dequincey, 10 Sep 2011.

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    eres un optimista ! Bien !
     
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    Deja, que alguna ilusión hay que conservar... aunque la realidad se empeñe en "informarte" de lo contrario en casi todo... y convertirte en un optimista bien informado...
     
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    en SF tambien roban e9s, curioso lo brutos que pueden llegar a ser los muy zopencos

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    Me alegro por el propietario pues parece que ha recuperado el coche.
    Salvo que la foto la hayan hecho los ladrones, para mostrar su finura trabajando.
     
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    Vamos a esquiar con el hierro ?


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    se ve precioso

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    he probado a borrar el rallón de la foto así un poco por encima, hace años que no subo una foto al foro, no se si acertaré
     
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    Has acertado, perfecto !

    ya os habéis fijado en las pirelli cn36 ?
     
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    la evolucion /sucesion del e9 al e24...



    I was curious about the design DNA of the E24 and went looking for Bracq's original concept designs. I didn't really find any, but I did see this interesting line on Wikipedia:

    "The initial proposal for the E24 was based on a BMW E9 3.0 CS with an increased height, in order to make it easier for customers to enter and exit the vehicle. However, Bob Lutz rejected the proposal, eventually leading to the shape of the E24 in its production form."

    I went to the cited page in Lutz's book "Guts" and he says there, "I arrived in Munich just as the company was preparing the replacement of the beautiful 3.0CS coupe. One of the problems that the company hoped to rectify in the new car was the relative difficulty of getting in and out of it. ... The company's answer was a taller, rather stodgy design, ordered up at an outside styling consultant. I rebelled, and sketched out another, lower design ... which eventually became the 6-series coupe, considered the worthy successor of the classic 3.0CS."

    On here, I did find a thread from last year talking about the very interesting E19 roadster, and a link to Curbside Classic's article on Paul Bracq, where I saw the concepts for the E24 -- it is unclear if these are before or after Lutz did his own mock-up of the E24. In my view, this is practically the E24, though the production version added the (in my opinion ugly) rub-strips that were in vogue at the time, as well as a B-pillar. Though I think here one can definitely see more E9 DNA, and the car does look a tad more upright.
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    The other concept image of the E24 on Curbside's page is this one with the interesting Camaro-like T-top. The teal E24 looks a bit off since it wasn't foreshortened right, like it's missing 4-5" from the front. The addition of the badge on the C-pillar of the orange model is nice, and again, the lack of black plastic is much appreciated.
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    But at the end of the day here, I still haven't found Lutz's so-called napkin drawing, nor the one that it was replacing. What was BMW's original design intent with the E24?
     
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    justo eso miraba

    Ahora que luego dirá que se le oxida... a esquiar...
     
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    cuanto azul es demasiado azul ?






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    una pista, uno de ellos es el mio...
     
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    El de la funda... o el del fondo... al centro
     
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    O el de la litera de abajo...
     
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    Apostaría por el azul más oscuro de la derecha.
     
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    Os quiero y aprecio, pero no habéis acertado…aunque debo decir que tiene trampa
     
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    Pillín, pillín algo deberíamos habernos imaginado.
     
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    we are just not bmw’s clients anymore….



    uno de esos artículos (Road and track, Kevin Williams) que miran por el retrovisor intentando contemporizar la situación contra nuestra propia percepción de la realidad…es el mismo bar, pero ya no es el mismo:

    buena descripción: “BMW’s trajectory reminds me of one of the once-favorite bars that I frequented in college. I had been going to this place for years now, my way to decompress on a Thirsty Thursday when I was younger and would pretend like I didn’t have a Friday morning class at 8:50 AM. Over time, first slowly, then kind of all at once, the bar changed. The music changed from kitschy Nineties hits and Recession-era Britney Spears and Lady Gaga to some pop starlet I had never heard of called Olivia Rodrigo. The quality of food it served wasn’t the same, and some of the menu items had been removed. The bar was remodeled. My favorite bartenders had moved on to greener pastures. The bar I had come to know and love in college, and now as a young adult, just wasn’t the same.

    Was it the right move for the bar? I don’t know their finances, but I do know that the new crowd it attracted knew every word to the Olivia Rodrigo songs even if they didn’t know too much about those 1990s hits that I had memorized note-for-note. The bar had pivoted, and either intentionally or not, it was very clear that I was no longer their primary client.”

    puede que ya no encontremos en bmw lo que solíamos esperar en bmw…


    “For the kids who grew up with posters of M3 CSLs, or Nazca M12s on their bedroom walls, or the adults who’ve leased 3-Series sedans and coupes for years because they liked how they drove, this just isn’t the same company. For years, BMW has prided itself on being the “ultimate driving machine." Now, the driving part doesn’t seem to be all that relevant.”


    y sigue kevin Williams….en road on track:



    It’s easy to become a creature of routine and habit. It feels like humans are wired that way. Sometimes as much as I think I’m open to change, I realize that maybe I’m a bit closed off, wanting things to always stay as they are.

    But that ain’t how the world works, Beloved.

    People, things, brands all change. The thing that you may have come to know and love from years past just isn’t the same. I called the i7 “hard to read,”which I fully stand behind. But, after ruminating on it for days, I think I’ve understood the BMW i7 a bit more. It was never a bad vehicle, no BMW group product is. It’s just not for me. It’s time to face the facts, BMW isn’t making cars for me or anyone like me anymore. We just aren’t their clients.

    Rather, BMW seems to have gone all in on the tech, and connectedness, with a weird focus on a styling direction that the brand almost hogheadedly refuses to acknowledge has its detractors. The i7 and iX are odd looking, and the i7’s theatre mode and integrated suite felt like they were more of a focus of the car compared to how it actually drives. Two of the car’s configurable driving modes were focused on what the rear passenger screen experience would be like, and the other two driving modes were solely about lighting and sound configuration, not about improving the car’s dynamic abilities. It wasn’t just the i7, either, these modes could be found on the new 2023 X1, and the iX. I reiterate the tech works fine, great even. The expressive, relax, theatre, and digital art modes found on the i7, iX, and X1, are well-integrated, but like, it’s so different than the traditional BMW experience. The “sport” mode, the thing that tangibly changes how the car drives, felt almost like an afterthought, a forlorn option in the drive mode selector, meant to be skipped over. Certainly, the features and adjustability of the car’s dynamic inputs are still present in the sport mode menu, but its importance isn’t as loud, as the Relax, Expressive, Digital Art, and Theatre modes occupy the same importance in the drive selector.

    The definition of luxury seems to be ever-changing, as big EV startups throw acres of tech once unseen in a car. New luxury buyers want tech-laden, computers with wheels, that can drive themselves, and maybe on some level, BMW is reacting to that. I’ve said that the Tesla Model 3 is the best BMW 3-Series that BMW never built, dynamically. But most of the pomp and circumstance behind the Model 3 tends to be focused on its straight-line performance and tech features. When faced with that information, why cater to a market that increasingly doesn’t care? Well, BMW is trying to court a new clientele, one much less interested in driving dynamics.

    One that isn’t like us.



    ni mejor ni peor, solamente diferente, y poco a poco al principio, y de golpe más tarde nos vemos expulsados de la marca que “nos pertenecía”… que irónico
     
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    Ni más ni menos, la vida misma. Y mientras nosotros tendremos a ralentizar nos la vida está acelerándose. Por eso la brecha es cada vez mayor
     
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    Sorry. "Tendemos y ralentizarnos"
     
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    Es la evolución "a un mundo mejor... en el que de muchas cosas no sabré (o comprenderé) "disfrutar" ... pero en el que me tocará... sobrevivir"...

    Así que hay que buscar tretas para estar bien... me considero un afortunado... poder seguir bajando a la sharkueva ... y sin ser necesario sacarlo... disfrutar de un tiempo pasado... que ni mejor ni peor... te da eso que apreciabas en "aquellos tiempos"...

    Para lo demás... tecnología que no emociona... y que mientras no sea en formato SUV...será... pasable...
     
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    As you can see from the photos, I am selling a complete dashboard / dash. It is the wooden part with the covers at the top, the hood over the instruments and the strip with the front cover and a shelf in the center tunnel.
    The wooden surfaces are very well preserved as can be seen in the photos. The covers/hoods covered with imitation leather also have no cracks.
    The parts are in their original condition, not refurbished or repainted, so the patina is preserved.
    Due to the size and sensitivity of the parts, shipping is not possible! Collection only in Paris.
    If you have any questions, please call me, no "what is the last price" requests. The parts are rare and the price is fair.
     
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    Basf, lease be a ese efe….ha dicho cuáles serán los colores de coche en 2023…


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    hay uno que me suena


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    El negro siempre está de moda, apuesta segura:D
     
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    Me lo dices o me lo cuentas... la lavadora... es saphirschwarz:floor:

    Lo malo es que mi mujer lo llama... el "BmUber":floor:
     
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    Solo he tenido una vez un coche negro….no es para mi
     
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